tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964698794691718038.post3009612950507890309..comments2024-02-24T18:21:32.681-07:00Comments on It Just Gets Stranger: Things I Never Thought Would Need To Be SaidELIhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11231200183264672395noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964698794691718038.post-89662749547291789032017-08-31T21:39:13.889-06:002017-08-31T21:39:13.889-06:00Orange Blossom and The Suzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, I'm...Orange Blossom and The Suzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, I'm sometimes late to some comments because I have help in moderating them. I second and third your comments a thousand fold. Thank you.It Just Gets Strangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05343152279468062540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964698794691718038.post-40015255304997573772017-08-21T09:17:25.203-06:002017-08-21T09:17:25.203-06:00Most of these monuments were erected during the Ji...Most of these monuments were erected during the Jim Crow era as a nice little FU to enforce the whites perceived righteousness in segregation and and to thumb their noses at the civil rights movement. I agree with Orange Blossom, placing them in museums that explain them in context so we can learn from our mistakes instead of glorifying them.The Suzzzzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09678750823895007527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964698794691718038.post-74522799143513795972017-08-18T13:45:26.609-06:002017-08-18T13:45:26.609-06:00I agree with you. The historical statues should no...I agree with you. The historical statues should not be destroyed, toppled over ruthlessly and defiled. They should be calmly and respectfully removed, with their brief identifying placards, and placed in museums and the story of the civil war told, the battle described, so the context behind these 'fine generals' who tore our country apart to preserve slavery can be appreciated. So we can learn and not repeat the past. orange blossomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08417925392776008150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964698794691718038.post-17993982883878985142017-08-18T13:32:39.427-06:002017-08-18T13:32:39.427-06:00The reason we hate ISIS is that they chop people&#...The reason we hate ISIS is that they chop people's heads off. The two aren't comparable. <br /><br />Also, you mention that we should learn from it. As a genuine learning exercise, ask yourself why do you sympathize in similar ways with white supremacists as you do with people being subjugated by ISIS. I'm not calling you a white supremacist, I just think you should look more closely at your immediate feelings on the subject and question why you feel that way.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11345933068827207580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964698794691718038.post-61788732448391975572017-08-18T10:35:11.864-06:002017-08-18T10:35:11.864-06:00Isn't what was happening in the middle east wi...Isn't what was happening in the middle east with ISIS removing and destroying historical statues over there, happening over here with the 'non-hate groups' attacking, defacing, and destroying historical statues? How can it be bad over there, but applauded over here. Instead of calling out these people our media is supporting the erasing of American history. The civil war happened, slavery happened and is still happening, we can't erase that from our history but we can rise above the hate, learn from it, and do better. Both sides of this turned ugly when the mud was flung, everyone got dirty. Picking at scabs only leaves scars. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964698794691718038.post-68321307341042411072017-08-17T09:17:50.248-06:002017-08-17T09:17:50.248-06:00Thank you for your words!
Thank you for your words!<br />JoJodancingbearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07601913899878318762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964698794691718038.post-7064629963308939902017-08-17T09:17:34.846-06:002017-08-17T09:17:34.846-06:00Thank youThank youJoJodancingbearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07601913899878318762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964698794691718038.post-1670062023012483452017-08-17T09:14:10.663-06:002017-08-17T09:14:10.663-06:00Amen!Amen!The Suzzzzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09678750823895007527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964698794691718038.post-74176843368813663642017-08-16T23:49:01.038-06:002017-08-16T23:49:01.038-06:00Eli, Thank you so much for posting this. I usually...Eli, Thank you so much for posting this. I usually read your posts to lighten up my day but this is exactly what I needed to read today. More people need to unapologetically stand for what is right. We can't just sit by and do nothing. We can't allow our children to be raised in a world where this kind of evil is condoned. There is a quote that says something like "I always wondered why somebody didn't do something about that, until I realized I was somebody." We all have to do our best to stand for right in our little corner of the world. Thanks for doing your part in yours. Jacynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964698794691718038.post-41675055950504912402017-08-16T22:04:27.753-06:002017-08-16T22:04:27.753-06:00The events of Charlottesville and the ensuing cove...The events of Charlottesville and the ensuing coverage has left me rudderless. Reading Eli's words yesterday gave me an anchor. But rereading this thread to see comments of support for how the POTUS handled the tragedy, has made me want to say this: Nazi symbols have been banned in Germany. According to a Vox article: "...The only Nazi imagery you’ll find is in exhibits devoted to understanding the horror of the period..."<br />The events of this past weekend should serve to remind us of the horror of the period of the Nazis and the horror of the era of slave owners, the horror of the era of Jim Crow laws. <br />I felt that horror when I watched the Vice clip, I felt like I was watching a horror movie. But it was real. What happened was real. A person died, people were injured. <br />And you are right Eli, it ain't right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964698794691718038.post-77425232222102528112017-08-16T17:15:42.766-06:002017-08-16T17:15:42.766-06:00Well said! I usually giggle at your posts, but thi...Well said! I usually giggle at your posts, but this one is different. Thanks for so clearly writing your thoughts and sharing with us all. What Barb has to say about...https://www.blogger.com/profile/02869463575953351447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964698794691718038.post-76496712566464631452017-08-16T16:07:42.243-06:002017-08-16T16:07:42.243-06:00I love you even more now. Thank you.I love you even more now. Thank you.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13586229065301287078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964698794691718038.post-7180416609772769512017-08-16T14:55:46.510-06:002017-08-16T14:55:46.510-06:00Here I sit at work, watching the you tube video an...Here I sit at work, watching the you tube video and reading your post, and all the comments, and I can't stop weeping. Would I be brave enough to take a stand? Would I allow my daughters to take a stand? I've taught them right from wrong, and to stand up for what is right. This is terrifying. I like to believe I would be at the protest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964698794691718038.post-50420305859329646022017-08-16T13:30:27.458-06:002017-08-16T13:30:27.458-06:00Thanks, Anonymous. Couldn't have said it bette...Thanks, Anonymous. Couldn't have said it better myself. Oh wait. PLAGIARISM! It Just Gets Strangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05343152279468062540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964698794691718038.post-11779650082138267392017-08-16T13:29:31.326-06:002017-08-16T13:29:31.326-06:00This black woman appreciates this more than you ca...This black woman appreciates this more than you can know and wishes that a couple of the commentors here could walk in my shoes for a little while and see what they think about "but many sides." Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964698794691718038.post-55653643986609428472017-08-16T12:49:47.855-06:002017-08-16T12:49:47.855-06:00http://www.wbtv.com/story/36139058/nc-kkk-leader-i...http://www.wbtv.com/story/36139058/nc-kkk-leader-im-glad-that-girl-died-during-virginia-protest<br /><br />These are the people you are defending. Your lack of empathy is astounding.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964698794691718038.post-51455779811753747502017-08-16T11:17:51.757-06:002017-08-16T11:17:51.757-06:00I want to try to close this thread with this:
Whi...I want to try to close this thread with this:<br /><br />White supremacy is wrong.<br /><br />Nazis are evil. All of them.<br /><br />Misogyny is disgusting.<br /><br />Antisemitism is unacceptable.<br /><br />White people are capable of committing terrorism.<br /><br />Christians are capable of committing terrorism.<br /><br />Hurting or killing people for standing up to white supremacy is terrorism.<br /><br />This cannot be ignored or accepted.<br /><br />Following up any of the above statements with a clause that begins with "but" is unhelpful at best and reprehensible at worst.<br /><br />Refusing to unequivocally agree to all of the above makes you a bad person.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964698794691718038.post-54060428236823968162017-08-16T11:11:01.704-06:002017-08-16T11:11:01.704-06:00While I agree that WHITE SUPREMACY IS EVEIL, we fo...While I agree that WHITE SUPREMACY IS EVEIL, we fought a World War against Nazis because they invaded and outright slaughtered people. We didn't fight the war because of their ideology, but because they acted upon it in the most heinous way. We don't fight the war against Islamic terrorists because they hate Westerners and the God some of us serve. We fight because they have taken their stance and killed us for it. It is deplorable that there is still a population that believes the way they do, but one Nazi drove a car into a group of protestors and I would NEVER blame the innocent people who came to peacefully protest that were injured by him. The whole group wasn't behind the wheel though and not everyone from the anti-protestors were peaceful. I can judge these things separately. I can judge the white nationalist and think him abhorrent and vile. The question for me is whether that thought can be separate and still say that there is blame to be shared for the other violence and skirmishes that happened last weekend at this rally. I'm looking at the weekend as a whole and not that one instance of violence. Perhaps that is where I'm viewing this differently. I too would have liked for him to take a tougher stance against that way of thinking, but I don't believe he was inherently wrong for saying "both sides share some blame" for the violence. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964698794691718038.post-18809328503523132782017-08-16T11:10:29.716-06:002017-08-16T11:10:29.716-06:00He's a counter-puncher, guys...he felt attacke...He's a counter-puncher, guys...he felt attacked and so yeah he completely effed up the message, yet again. <br /><br />This is what you were trying to avoid, too. See how your jab about the statements is inflammatory? Stick to the facts, counselor. Do not assume Mr. Trump has statements written for him simply because the media wishes you to believe that (yes I heard that too). We don't know who writes his statements/speeches and it could easily come from him. <br /><br />You want to believe he cannot be sincere, because it fits your narrative. <br /><br />I cannot defend Mr. Trump, and I won't try, but I can understand him and dispassionately parse his words and actions. <br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964698794691718038.post-65192396812264660412017-08-16T10:45:58.181-06:002017-08-16T10:45:58.181-06:00When even Mitch McConnell is upset with the Presid...When even Mitch McConnell is upset with the President for referring to some neo-nazis as "good guys," you know the president f-d the f-ing f up.<br /><br />http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mitch-mcconnell-trump-neo-nazis-charlottesville_us_599455b2e4b009141641b78fAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964698794691718038.post-9619332345801546042017-08-16T10:42:59.052-06:002017-08-16T10:42:59.052-06:00Yesterday's press conference made me literally...Yesterday's press conference made me literally sick to my stomach. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964698794691718038.post-14118440159961929572017-08-16T10:40:56.561-06:002017-08-16T10:40:56.561-06:00Awesomesauciness, did you see yesterday's pres...Awesomesauciness, did you see yesterday's press conference? He walked back all of those statements that someone had written for him previously. It was vile. It Just Gets Strangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05343152279468062540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964698794691718038.post-7680327655136413282017-08-16T10:15:55.370-06:002017-08-16T10:15:55.370-06:00Thank you for this. Agree with every single word. ...Thank you for this. Agree with every single word. Jen Kenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12811442124515857903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964698794691718038.post-47366515247806774732017-08-16T10:01:39.421-06:002017-08-16T10:01:39.421-06:00I will never read that part of TKAMB the same way ...I will never read that part of TKAMB the same way again. Thank you. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8964698794691718038.post-61341399337025254602017-08-16T09:51:23.053-06:002017-08-16T09:51:23.053-06:00"
As I said on Saturday, we condemn in the st..."<br />As I said on Saturday, we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence. It has no place in America.<br /> <br />And as I have said many times before: No matter the color of our skin, we all live under the same laws, we all salute the same great flag, and we are all made by the same almighty God. We must love each other, show affection for each other, and unite together in condemnation of hatred, bigotry, and violence. We must rediscover the bonds of love and loyalty that bring us together as Americans.<br /> <br />Racism is evil. And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans." Pres. Trump<br /><br />Looks pretty straightforward a condemnation as can be. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com